Tuesday, June 23, 2015

Grandma's keeps Boston Cutoff at 90 seconds

UPDATED! The analysis has been updated. The latest analysis is available here: http://boston-qualifier-stats.blogspot.ca/2015/08/santa-rosa-marathon-sways-boston-cutoff.html


With 23 of the top 25 feeder marathons complete, the current trend for the 2016 Boston Marathon Cutoff is 90 seconds. Grandma's marathon, with over 6000 participants is a big enough marathon to impact the Boston Marathon projected cutoff. This year's edition had similar results as last year. There were 100 fewer finishers, but 19 more people who beat the 1m2s cutoff from the 2015 Boston Marathon. Since the results were similar to last year, this kept the projected cutoff at 90 seconds.

Only 2 more left (Santa Rosa and Lehigh).


The Caveats:
The analysis assumes a lot of assumptions. I have outlined the objective and methodology on this page. Basically, I look at the number of people who qualified for the 2015 race, using the "feeder marathons". To qualify for the 2015 race, participants needed a BQ minus 1m2s. These races were all run last year. I then look at the same races for this year, and see how many people would qualify using the same cutoff.  If fewer people qualify, then I decrease the cutoff (make it easier to qualify), until the same number of people qualify as did last year. Conversely, if more people make the 1m2s cutoff than last year, I increase the cutoff (making it harder to qualify) until the same number of people qualify.


Table 1: Year vs Year, By Marathon
2015 Qualifying Year2016 Qualifying Year
MarathonFinishersBQBQ2015BQ2015%FinishersBQBQ2015BQ2015%
Big Cottonwood1,30826224419 %1,52728425217 %
Erie 97831228029 %95931728930 %
Berlin 36,1225,7695,45515 %29,0274,5304,30815 %
St. George 5,8181,1981,13720 %5,80699793916 %
Twin Cities 8,8551,01095311 %8,8531,04196711 %
Portland 6,9455044707 %6,4294293956 %
Chicago 38,8543,5273,3149 %40,5814,0043,7629 %
Steamtown 2,16537735917 %2,18443140819 %
Columbus 5,52361156110 %5,44562058111 %
Toronto Waterfront 3,60448745313 %3,97165460115 %
Baystate 1,30430127121 %1,53137835023 %
Marine Corps 23,3851,1701,0735 %19,6877186623 %
New York City 50,1343,9803,7257 %50,4333,6293,4007 %
Indianapolis Mon'tal 3,52151848314 %3,72559455215 %
Richmond 4,8424414189 %5,09552048710 %
Philadelphia 10,9141,3411,25211 %10,3331,3371,23512 %
California International 6,2381,2921,19519 %5,7931,2911,18520 %
Houston 6,9456986519 %7,1336986489 %
Boston 31,21010,56410,04632 %26,63512,79212,21846 %
Bayshore2,01731430015 %2,00834132916 %
Ottawa5,32481274514 %4,50180675017 %
Mountains 2 Beach1,61739937023 %1,58645241926 %
Grandma's 6,1731,1081,04717 %6,0751,1341,06618 %
TOTAL263,79636,99534,80213 %249,31737,99735,80314 %
Notes:
1. BQ = Number of Runners who met the minimum Boston Qualifying Standard
2. BQ2015 = Number of Runners who met the Cutoff for the 2015 Boston Marathon (BQ minus 1m 2s)
3. BQ2015% = Percentage of finishers meeting the BQ 20015 cutoff time.
4. AG = Age Group on the day of the feeder race, not the subsequent year's Boston Marathon.
   This is a small source of error, as a person may "age-up" for the subsequent year's Boston Marathon.

Analysis
Looking at the table above: 263,796 runners finished a 2015 "feeder" qualifying race, whereas 249,317 finished a 2016 "feeder" race: 14,479 fewer people. However, more people met the minimum BQ standard 37,997 for the 2016 qualifying year versus 36,995 for the 2015 qualifying year. Moreover, 1001 more people met the 1 minute and 2 second cutoff in the 2016 qualifying year so far than did in 2015.

If the Boston Marathon registration opened today - assuming the same proportion of qualified runners apply for the race (see objective and methodology) - there wouldn't be enough spots for everyone. We have to increase the cutoff so that we whittle the 35,803 people (who met the 2015 cutoff in a 2016 qualifying race) down to 34,802 the number of people who met the Cutoff for 2015.

Through a numerical modelling approach, the answer to the solution, of what the cutoff should be becomes 90 seconds.

At 90 seconds, 34,799 people will make it into the marathon. (only 3 fewer than this year).

Table 2: Projected qualifiers, from this years races, by AG based on an 90 second cutoff.
AGFinishersBQBQ minus 62sBQ minus 90sBQ2016%
F18-3442,5455,3555,0414,90812 %
F35-3917,1332,5182,3802,32114 %
F40-4416,5472,5432,3662,29314 %
F45-4912,3242,5852,4262,35119 %
F50-548,1481,6241,5371,49318 %
F55-594,07587482481320 %
F60-641,66739337637222 %
F65-6952911211010820 %
F70-7415832303019 %
F75-793055517 %
F80+633350 %
M18-3441,1855,1484,8954,76512 %
M35-3922,3672,7262,5522,48311 %
M40-4424,9923,2643,0612,96412 %
M45-4921,7343,9533,7173,60717 %
M50-5417,1343,0292,8282,73316 %
M55-5910,1461,9321,8281,77017 %
M60-645,3361,1481,0991,06820 %
M65-692,22753751650823 %
M70-7478017216616221 %
M75-7921035343316 %
M80+4499920 %
Total249,31737,99735,80334,79914 %
Notes:
1. BQ = Number of Runners who met the minimum Boston Qualifying Standard
2. BQ minus 62s = Number of Runners from this year's races who would have met the Cutoff for the 2015 Boston Marathon (BQ minus 1m 2s)
3. BQ minus 90s = Number of Runners from this year's races who would meet the projected Cutoff for the 2016 Boston Marathon (BQ minus 90s)
4. BQ2016% = Percentage of finishers meeting the projected BQ 20016 cutoff time.
4. AG = Age Group on the day of the feeder race, not the subsequent year's Boston Marathon.
   This is a small source of error, as a person may "age-up" for the subsequent year's Boston Marathon.

13 comments:

  1. Thank you for the continued update information on the BM cutoff times. Looking forward to the next update after Santa Rosa.

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  2. The BAA website lists Big Cottonwood and Erie (both taking place the same weekend as Lehigh) as 2016 qualifiers as well, so it appears there are 4 left, instead of 2. How might this affect your projected cutoff time?

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  3. Random insight not from the author, but those two races combined had 600 total qualifiers last year, and had very strong overall BQ%s. It would take a big shift in the total number of qualifiers (on small races) to move it much I would think. We saw last weekend Grandma's did not move it at all as the year over year number barely moved. Those two races just happen not to be in his sample. I think based on his methodology, it is going to be tough to move that 90 second calculation more than a 3-4 seconds in either direction. The question becomes how many of these BQ individuals follow through, will it be as high of a percentage as last year? I do think the 'been there, done that' factor will come more and more into play for those that have gone multiple years, which is pure speculation though obviously. I am interested in the author's take, not trying to steal thunder, just drive conversation as we all go batty wondering for the next 3 months or so until we find out.

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  4. Hi all -
    I think Anonmyous @ 7:14 is right in his assessment. Erie (for sure) and Big Cottonwood (probably) have always been "double-qualifiers" in so far as the timing of the races meant that is you could use your finish time for the entry window into the next 2 Boston Marathons. In the grand scheme of things, they are relatively small marathons - with roughly 300 qualifiers per race, but nonetheless, they are on the "Feeder" list. One thing I was hoping to do, and probably will in the next couple of weeks is go through the 2015 Boston Marathon results and try to match up name-for-name the participants, and determine which marathon they qualified at. This would give a general idea of what % of finishers each feeder marathon provides. This could help firm up the prediction.

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  5. Hi! I beat my qualifying time by 9.43 (I ran a 3:30:17 & needed 3:40:00). Is it safe to assume that I will get in? We are very close to booking a house for marathon weekend...and the cancellation policy is less than generous! Any insight would be great! Thank you.

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    1. With over 9 minutes, I'm sure you are okay. But, I can't guarantee anything. As much as I have crunched the data, it's still a guess, an educated guess, but a guess nonetheless. Tell you what, since I only have 67 seconds, why don't you do me a favor and not register :-)

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  6. Reckon you'll be fine. Cut off is normally 2 to 3 mins per age cat if you look at previous years. I already booked my aeroplane tix and hotel and have a 11 min cushion. Unless I get injured, will definitely be running. Good luck.

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  7. Love your stats mate. Do your stats only take into American marathons? What about all the people qualifying outside America? Do their BQs affect the cut off times too?

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    1. I just used the list of 25 "Top Feeder" marathons the BAA published on their site. There are 2 Canadian marathons on the list, and the Berlin marathon. Berlin was a bit of an odd-ball this year, with many fewer runners and many fewer qualifiers - not sure if that is a typical european phenomena this year, of it was just something odd with Berlin this year.

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  8. To what extent do you anticipate the fact that x number of fast marathoners will be attending LA in February for Olympic trials and so presumably won't be going to Boston? I'd assume this might have a lowering effect on the cut off but have no idea what that effect might be.

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    1. I don't think that will affect this analysis. The analysis is more geared to the general Age Grouper population. If x fewer people run Boston because of the Olympic trials, the value of x would be very small.

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  9. Can wait for your update after the Santa Rosa marathon that is going on. Count down 3 weeks for Boston registration.

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